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		<title>Rhetoric, Egoism, and Creationism</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 22:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bill Sullivan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that opposition to ethical egoism and evolution have at least one feature in common. Both creationism/&#8221;intelligent design&#8221; and anti-egoists tend to argue without really discussing the actual truth value of the ideas they are opposing. Often, a creationist &#8230; <a href="http://enkrates.com/2008/05/25/rhetoric-egoism-and-creationism/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that opposition to ethical egoism and evolution have at least one feature in common. Both creationism/&#8221;intelligent design&#8221; and anti-egoists tend to argue without really discussing the actual truth value of the ideas they are opposing. Often, a creationist will argue that belief in evolution will bring with it bad social effects. In fact, there is a vital sub-group of creationists who spend a lot of time trying to <a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;safe=off&amp;q=darwin+hitler">tie Hitler to Darwin</a>. That&#8217;s hardly a scientific argument against evolution, but it is meant to persuade. Of course, creationism isn&#8217;t really any sort of scientific enterprise, and so its indifference to truth is somewhat to be expected.</p>
<p>In the case of egoism, the <a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;safe=off&amp;q=against+egoism">arguments against it</a> typically try to imagine some sort of scenario where failing to follow non-egoist principles results in some sort of morally disgusting result. This type of argument is fairly common in ethical reasoning, as well as any other field where you&#8217;re prefer to not reason from first principles. But it&#8217;s a type of arguments that, by its design, fails to even notice that there may be some positive argument for the principle in question. In fact, the argument type I mention really just results in begging the question, as the &#8220;morally disgusting result&#8221; is typically evaluable as morally disgusting from non-egoist principles. One rarely comes across an anti-egoism argument that actually engages the egoist argument on egoist terms. Anti-egoists, like anti-Darwinian, prefer to stay within their own premises and then show that, by golly, you can&#8217;t be both a creationist and a Darwinian, so Darwinism must go (you can&#8217;t be both an anti-egoist and an egoist, so egoism must go).</p>
<p>As it turns out, there isn&#8217;t a coherent alternative to either neo-darwinism or ethical egoism. Additionally, neither evolution or ethical egoism result in morally disgusting situations. Evolution, so far, results in humanity, among other things. Ethical egoism, as I live it, is full of <a href="http://www.blogthings.com">creativity</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian">co-operation</a>, <a href="http://flickr.com/photos/enkrates/355121036/">compassion</a>, and <a href="http://karisullivan.wordpress.com/">love</a>.</p>
<p>I suppose that if it were true that ethical egoism required me to violently subjugate every person I encountered and that I could only feel true happiness when sunbathing by the side of a river of human blood&#8230;well, I would probably reconsider ethical egoism. In this vein, if everyone shit ice cream, then restrooms would be restaurants. But, as things actually stand, ethical egoism has made me a decent person and nobody is eating out of their toilet.</p>
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		<title>How and Why I Care About Animal Welfare</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2006 23:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Bill Sullivan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would count myself as a member of all sorts of subcultures. Internet Geeks. Baseball Fans. Movie Buffs. None of those have a whole lot to do with animal welfare, so they&#8217;re not relevant here. But two subcultures, Objectivists and &#8230; <a href="http://enkrates.com/2006/12/03/how-and-why-i-care-about-animal-welfare/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would count myself as a member of all sorts of subcultures. Internet Geeks. Baseball Fans. Movie Buffs.</p>
<p>None of those have a whole lot to do with animal welfare, so they&#8217;re not relevant here. But two subcultures, Objectivists and American Conservatives, are both proudly anti-animal welfare, at least in some sense. Neither embraces animal cruelty as most people would understand that phrase, but both could consider eating a steak to be a political act against hippies who think animals should have rights.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe in animal rights. Animals are not political. I won&#8217;t go into this too deeply, but I will just say that Ayn Rand&#8217;s derivation of rights is the one I find most convincing, and it doesn&#8217;t apply to non-conceptual beings. And that&#8217;s where I&#8217;ve stood for a long time in relation to animal welfare.</p>
<p>But I am not much for politics in general and I certainly don&#8217;t care to use political ideas to make personal decisions. Rights are useful for constructing societies, but when I&#8217;m choosing among possible actions rights are under-determinative or irrelevant.</p>
<p>Simply, I have an animal in my family. We have a dog named Robot and I am unable to feel the way I do about him without also caring about the welfare of animals like him. That means when I eat, it matters to me that the cow that gave the milk in my food did not suffer in so giving. It matters that the meat I eat did not come from a sick animal, rotting in what is effectively a cell.<br />
Further, it matters to me that I not eat meat or drink milk at all. But that isn&#8217;t the <em>only</em> thing that matters to me. I try to live a happy life and suddenly changing almost every dish in my diet is not likely to make me happy. I&#8217;ve spent the last 28 or so years learning the foods I like to eat and I doubt I could find vegan meals to replace all those dishes very quickly. Living a vegan life is a factor in my eating decisions, but it is not the only factor. These days I try to eat new vegan meals pretty regularly, but I almost never have only vegan meals for a whole day. I&#8217;m walking, not running, to veganism. I expect to get there, but I&#8217;m not in a rush. It&#8217;s hard for me to rush and be happy at the same time.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m an egoist, so animal suffering doesn&#8217;t count for everything. In fact, human suffering doesn&#8217;t count for everything, either. But they both count for something, at least to me.</p>
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